I had a surf yesterday in shitty conditions on the beach and the break was much better than both the point breaks and the reef breaks in my local. Alona just because it is a point break does not mean it will always be better than a beach break.
Cheers Guys
By the way I am not sticking up for Dodo or Crystal Beach as I don't personally know him and I would probably never visit Crystal Beach for a surf, although Zambales does get good waves from time to time there are far better places to surf in the Philippines.

How much you want to pay Jim I can ask around for you if you like.
Cheers

Keep drinking that red horse it will send you maaaaaaad

Dodo comparing Zambales to Hawaii even for your standards is getting a bit far fetched.
One thing to remember though everyone is that on its day almost every break in the world could be considered world class.
Alona I agree with you in so much that if Zambales is the Hawaii of the Philippines then places like Majestics, Philippine dream, Lihim and the entire Cloud Nine area to name a few must be Nirvana.
It seems a little funny to me that a place that would average a wave size of less than a foot over a year has so much attention on it.
If it gets as good as you say Dodo then post some pics of it to prove your statements. The photos you have on your site does not show it to be world class.
Just remember most travel agents advertise the PI as being a place you can get surf 365 days of the year with their now is the right time to surf the Philippines campaign which we all know is incorrect.
I would say that the Philippines probably doesn't have any world class beach breaks although time will probably prove me wrong.

It's going to be 42 degrees celcius here today and I am going to surf our not so world class beachie.
Cheers all.

Alona how big was it the day Dodo went out.
From all accounts from friends of mine who go to Cloud Nine each year the place snaps a lot of boards and can get heavy so maybe he was a little scared. I have mates who have been surfing for over 20 years and they still get scared when they are out of their comfort zone as I do and as every surfer does.
I am beginning to think maybe Spoonman is right in what he is saying that some of you are trying to deter others from going to Zambales possibly because you don't get many waves there and when you do you don't want others surfing there.
It doesn't seem to bother the locals who write into this post so why does it bother you.
I am not having a go at you I am just curious. You seem to have a massive problem with Dodo.
Cheers there are over 7000 Islands in your country surely you can find somewhere that is less crowded with the same consistancy or lack of as Zambales has.
Cheers all chill a little.

If a surfer can handle the truly world class wave at Bells beach does that necessarily mean that they can handle Shark Island. If a surfer rips Lennox Head or J-Bay to pieces does that mean he will be a standout at Teahupoo. Not necessarily so.
Dodo is promoting his area to get people to go there. That I believe is called advertising. Advertisements are always full of non truths otherwise people would not buy the products. Look at Coke ads for example they are full of beautiful people enjoying life along with the refreshing taste of the product when in reality it is a product full of sugar that will rot your teeth, it has some ingredient in it that is one of the best copper cleaners on the planet and if you drink too much of it I doubt it could be beneficial yet they don't tell you this otherwise you wouldn't buy it.
If Dodo wants to promote the area and it brings in tourism dollars and doesn't f#ck up the environment or affect peoples health what's the problem.
Remember it is your choice not to go there let others decide for themselves.
The truth is like anywhere in the Philippines if you check out the weather conditions you will score good waves if you rely on what others tell you then you may be a little dissapointed and at least the Zambales region has other things to offer than just surfing which cannot be said for some of the better surf destinations in the country.
Cheers.

I have a few questions for the resort and business owners and the live there local surfers of the Zambales region.

For the Business People

Are you annoyed with Dodo using possible misleading information in his advertising of the Crystal Beach Resort.

Would you like it advertised that the Zambales Region doesn't really have good waves therefore the surfers shouldn't come.

For the Surfers

Do you care if there are more and more surfers in the water if they are bringing money into the Zambales region.


Lets let them decide after all it is where they live.
Cheers
The only reason I am asking this is that I am curious as to what the response would be.

Hey Rage send me a personal email. I will take you up on that offer of anytime anywhere just keep in touch.
Thanks for the intelligent answers to my questions as well.
Your mom must be so proud of how you turned out.

Hey Millie
How was the trip

Well put Bjorn if it is true.
One question though. You wrote the following

9.thank you very much..goodluck with the forum,I
think it depicts its purpose.Some people I
know live up to it through the roots,but a portion of this
forum just want to make noise for the sake of it.RESPECT.


What does that mean. What are the roots we are supposed to live up to.

Surfing is a sport and because it is relatively cheap and a lot of fun it has taken off. I don't understand this "roots" business. We honestly don't think that surfing has some divine meaning in life, a tradition dating back centuries or  is there to serve some mythical purpose in life.
The majority of people who surf do it because they enjoy it,
others because they make money from it no other reason I wouldn't think.
Just my thoughts.  
Don't let the localism thing get out of hand it serves no purpose to anyone. Travelling surfers have no local.

Hey Millie we are just getting wind swell around 5 feet but its onshore and messy. As soon as the first cyclones come and push some swell down here the better. The place I like to surf the most starts firing up during January - March or April.
Did you surf Puraran when you were in the PI. I just want to know how everone is it has been an eternity since I was last there.

One thing about localism guys. Locals with attitude are not acceptable and if you are one then don't be too dissappointed if people put shit on you when you visit their local. Surfers with bad attitudes normally take that attitude with them when they travel and are not too hard to pick out. You know the guy that is always dropping in or the guy that constantly stares at everyone out at the break but doesn't try to communicate with anyone.

Hey RTT what's this all about.
Baler (murderous debate about first Pinoy ever to surf, cemento parking, missing palengke funds)

Chill out everyone nip the localism thing in the bud or as Shadow says - stay at your local and don't ever leave it. After all you wouldn't want to broaden your outlook on life would you.

If anyone wants to donate surfboards to underpriviledged surfers in the PI then donate them personally otherwise if you give them to an organization they will probably be handed out to friends of that organization.

Hey Quin we unfortunately had another shark attack by 2 white pointers in South Australia yesterday. Condolences to the family and friends.

I wouldn't actually say they get Hawaiian style power they just get big surf. The swell hasn't really travelled far enough and built up enough intensity to be termed "Hawaiian style power" but then again that is just my opinion and I may be wrong considering I have never surfed in Hawaii. I have surfed N and NW Philippines in some large surf though and it doesn't come anywhere in comparrison with the power of any of the waves I have surfed on the east coast. There could be exceptions to this though I wouldn't believe it to be the Norm.
All the best for Christmas hope it's filled with waves and fun.

Hey Quin hows the chopper expedition coming along.
Cheers

I have just finished seeing a report that the South Australian government has ordered the destruction of any sharks in the vicinity of humans. I don't know how you guys feel about it but the great white is supposed to be protected. We should all be aware that when we are out in the Ocean we are out in their domain and although shark attacks are horrendous I personally do not believe we should kill them because they have had a feed. After all we can't communicate with them to tell them they are doing the wrong thing. Maybe we should restrict the size of the fishing trawlers that cruise around the world catching millions upon millions of tons of fish each year I really don't know. If we continue to deprive them of their food source then eventually we are going to become that source.
Again my condolences go out to the family and friends of the deceased but destroying the sharks will not bring him back.
Please don't tell me that the staple diet of the great white are seals. They follow and feed off the tuna schools which to my knowledge is a fish we also like to eat.
Cheers all.

I didn't say that places like C9, Majestics or other east coast spots cannot be compared with Hawaiian style power I merely stated that I wouldn't think that the spots in the N or NW coasts would. I have surfed several breaks on the east coast that are powerful. I have surfed none on the west coast that can even come close.
Cheers hope your getting some waves wherever you are

Quin that will be the downside to the chopper trip. You just don't know when a massive typhoon will hit. Imagine if you had left a week earlier and were stuck out there in it. You would still be out there probably forgotten about. The unfortunate thing is that you have to go during the typhoon season so you can score the waves. Good luck with the venture but like a lot of things in the PI it is fraught with danger and possible failure.
Best to pick out the spot and catch a boat. Cheaper and probably more reliable (maybe). Just not quicker.
For those of you who celebrate christmas. Happy Christmas.
For those who don't Happy whatever.
Cheers. Hope your getting better waves than us at the moment.

Nice photos Jim