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surf trip in zambales
Bjorn2004
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· December 8th, 2004, 9:45am
dear spoon,locals,fellow surfers,

Hi ,whoever you are spoonman I want to meet you in person,im
sure you're one of the manila surfers who often times
surf zambales .or a "local"of zambales as you said.I,
don't mind you naming me in your surfers forum,but I
just want to clarify things which you thought you knew
but obviously dont.Well,you might be right about some
facts,but before you get to air your petty stuffs you
must know some real facts..i understand your
compassion for your fellow zambalenos especially to
dodo’s crew I have nothing against them,,I know
dodo and some of the boys there pretty much.and I have
also helped in solidifying the locals of some spot in
zamba and am committed to continue to do so.

To clarify:

1.i did something wrong to the locals of
zambales?—well its not actually wrong coz why I said
something to them regarding peddling all those guests
to mags or to pundaquit has a mere reason to advocate
what the LOCALS (DODOS CREW ARE NOT THE ONLY LOCALS OF
ZAMBA BY THE WAY) thought.LOCALS OF PUNDAQUIT, are
adamant to these constant touring of guests.they are
not against sharing their spots to guest,but they
deserve a  little respect also. They asked me to tell
the san narciso boys their sentiments because they
know that I knew the san narciso boys better than
them.

2. I know these are issues between locals of zambales
hence I am NOT a local there, so I thought I am out of
the issue,but I think of exposing their plight for the
sake of EQUAL RESPECT BETWEEN LOCALS.sn narciso boys
might not be so keen of..coz maybe of the excitement
of sharing, which in fact affects some individuals
especially the pundaquit locals.

3..the pundaquit boys also deserve RESPECT!...since
they are ALSO LOCALS OF ZAMBALES,
pundaquit,mags,timmys,mt,rp,kapons,ml,rivermouth,rp2,-these
are the spots close to them ,well they are not locals
of san narciso..but they don’t actually own the spots,
but do you think the sn narciso boys also have to give
respect?..we leave that issue  to them .i did my part
of voicing it out to them hoping slight decency or
protocol from dodos boys to confide with the pundaquit
boys and treat them as locals too.    


con't....

surf trip in zambales
Bjorn2004
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· December 8th, 2004, 9:46am
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4.i have nothing against DODO AND HIS CREW,whatever
they thought is right for them I don’t care..i just
want to share my compassion with the P. BOYZ BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT WHAT THEY ARE THINKING OF HAS A BASIS OF
TRUTH AND IS RIGHTEOUS.they are LOCALS OF ZAMBALES
TOO,AND THESE SPOTS ARE NOT SO FAR OFF FROM THEM.

FACTS:..REASONS WHY THE P.BOYZ  thought they are
also a local of zamba,..and hence dodo was not keen
of  or is keen of but don’t actually refer them as
members of the "zambales surfing association".

1:surfing is not new to P.BOYZ.-1997.we first surf
there, local kid "vikoy" already surfs on a body
board,we leant our boards to them ,learnt to surf and he
was the first local to surf..at the same time we visit
and surfed dodos place,no locals surf there before..we
got in touch with dodo,,help him obtain boards
through surfboard donations which was organized sometime
in 99,dodo learn to surf at that time.and started to
create his crew..which eventually got better and
better,.created their own zambales surfing association later
on.

2,the P BOYZ, are not as structured and organized as
per the sn narciso boys are but..they ARE LOCALS of
ZAmba. so must be treated with EQUAL RESPECT...

3.I have nothing against zaldo..hes the coolest sn
narciso guy to me,.manuel however has come up too
hot in this issue coz of an arguement in the line up
when he dropped in on me,i confronted him about it,but he insisted that he has the right
way. well if he thought his a local and has a sole
right to drop-in on everyone-I think he has some
problem—that’s why I told him but still he insist –its
not my problem anymore.

4.you hate fluid because of me?! Fluid doesn’t
deserve that..im just a fraction of fluid.,I don’t even
know you..if you think youre protecting the rights of
some individuals in sn narciso..you must know the real
thing before you cast your petty things on the forum.
And I got no reason to hate you bro, and you have no
idea what fluid is all about. if you have a problem
with me,then settle it with me face to face so we can
come up clear with it. Me and Manuel have personal
issues and I have told him to clarify things
but .he knows what’s best for him. So I rest my case
between us.

AS FOR THE COMMENT THAT FLUID PRODUCTS HAVE NO QUALITY
/ SUBSTANDARD—WELL, WE CANT PLEASE EVERYONE and we are
not claiming anything…YOUR POINT IS TAKEN. BUT I HAVE
A SUGGESTION FOR YOU BRO..ASK 90 % OF THE LOCAL
SURFERS / NATIONWIDE, THE ONES THAT LIVE ON THE BEACH,
THE ONES THAT SURF BETTER WAY BETTER..MORE
AGGRESSIVELY, MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOU,  ASK THE TOP
12 OF THE PHILIPPINE SURFING SCENE (do you even know
them),THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND BREATH SURFING. THE
PEOPLE FLUIDSURF HAS SUPPORTED FOR THE LAST 6-7 YEARS,
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SUPPORTED FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING.. I GUESS LONG BEFORE YOU EVEN TOUCHED A
REAL SURFBOARD. LONG BEFORE THIS FORUM HAS BEEN
FOUNDED.. ASK THE AUSTRALIANS, THE JAPANESE, AMERICANS
ETC. WHO ARE ADVOCATES OF ADVANCING THE PHILIPPINE
SURF SCENE..ASK THE LOCALS BRO..ASK THEM AND TELL ME
WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY..

WELL..REGARDLESS OF SOME PEOPLE SAY AGAINST
FLUIDSURF..THIS COMPANY IS COMMITTED TO THE CORE IN
SUPPORTING THE LOCAL SURFING SCENE IN ALL ITS PARTS
AND SUB PARTS / / BECAUSE ITS ALL THAT MATTERS TO US:
WHAT THE LOCALS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT FLUIDSURF. WE ARE
ACCOUNTABLE ONLY TO THEM AND THE PHILIPPINE SURFING
SCENE...FLUIDSURF BRO..WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT IS
HERE TO STAY..AND ITS GONNA GET BETTER AND STRONGER
FOR THE LOCAL SURFING SCENE..FLUIDSURF IS FOR THE
LOCALS AND THE LOCAL SURFING SCENE..ALWAYS HAS
BEEN..AND ALWAYS WILL BE..

regards,

Edsel Pabon / Bjorn Pabon
–founder: FLUID INDUSTRIES..

con't....
surf trip in zambales
Bjorn2004
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· December 8th, 2004, 9:51am
......

5.I am bjorn pabon,as an individual I have nothing to do
with the surf forum other thn this post I am submitting now and I will not be submitting anymore posts after this.True,im a surfer who resides and works in manila,but im not a manilenio..i have nothing against DODO ( I know him
personally), san narciso boys,manuel or zaldo,or
zambales surfing association.i am not patronizing zambales as a world class wave either nor condemning them as
not!.- I surf zambales too.. A LOT more than any other
spots.it has been my second best surf desti, I have
nothing against locals,you have no idea what we are
trying to do to help them in their surfing,I am not a
member of your forum,so pls don’t misjudge me of the
thoughts that I am one of the manilenios whos keeping
zambales to everyone,I just surf..but I don’t
advertise either,I  believe in the principles of the
search.

6.i am sorry if  the local sn narciso boyz where
disturbed by my accusations to them,,I just did what I
thought and the P.BOYZ thought  is equally
righteous…but I left the issue up to them already for
a long time now, ”locals for locals”,

7.just a suggestion to,  with all the respect to the
zamba crew,dodo ramos,you know that you and your crew
are zamba locals----so as the P -.boyz .you want
respecthuhthen give respect.

8.as for you..spoon..i admire your deep sympathy with
the locals,but you need to back up your accusations

9.thank you very much..goodluck with the forum,I
think it depicts its purpose.Some people I
know live up to it through the roots,but a portion of this
forum just want to make noise for the sake of it.RESPECT.

*..few more things..

The feature on MTV mag is not an advertisement..
FLUIDSURF does not advertise.

-The people at MTV mag came to us and asked us if we
could help them in their "fashion" and "how to" sections for
that issue. Who are we to turn them down?

-It is not a documentary or an article so the spots or
places depicted in them may or may not be mentioned..

THANKS AGAIN...STAY STOKED!

BJORN PABON