Be specific. Where there? How much?

What's black and screams?

Stevie Wonder answering the iron.

On the issue of Aipah, I subscribe to Voltaire's statement.

"I might disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it!"

I agree with Marklukas. Keep the verbal-diarrhea between Aipah and Shadow going, Al. With a few verbal-farts along the perimeter launched by Shadowsurfer, who himself is not above telling other people how they should conduct themselves. Ernest Angsley's soapbox pulpit-ing seems softer than an alternative-lifestyler's limpwrists in comparison.

I thought the simbahan-capilla comment from Aipah was corkin'. As was Shadow's promise to Al that he would shut up...after which Shadow posts enough sassy-gal bitchtalkin' to fill up five Penthouse Forum issues, half an Abante, and three rolls of toilet paper. You go, girrrrl. Classic.

Well I reckon that's a very FAIR challenge put forth by Aipah. It's certainly more fair and a more gentlemanly approach than:

1.) A juvenile challenge to a fistfight.

2.) Unnecessary name-calling and haphazard presumption by way of the "you're a wealthy co~no kid" accusation. We all don't have a clue as to each others particulars here. And we. quite simply, do not care. This is surf talk. Makes us all wonder where that particular chip-on-the-shoulder came from regarding assumed financial capacity and Iberian heritage as those matters are not only difficult to assess by virtue of the few words we type on the screen but more significantly, have absolutely nothing to do with the surf debate. Which begs the questions: why assume it?...or worse yet, why bring it up?

3.) An invite to a one-year wave-assessment camp-out in Daet. That is a rather ludicrous proposition. Not to many people have 365 days to profligately squander in one place. Surely there are more interesting manners and places with which and wherein to allocate one's time on a 12-motnh period.

4.) The silly "magaling mag-ingles" response to a valid question or point of contention. Again, where did this chip-on-the-shoulder come from. I am certain many of us can articulate ourselves with equal proficiency in English...as well as Tagalog, Ilonggo, Spanish...and half-passable though all-but-forgotten French for that matter. That some of us opt to write in one language, or a juxtaposition of more than one is a matter of personal preference. Do as you wish. But do stick to the subject matter at hand and defend your point appropriately.

That said, see you all in Siargao as we watch and document  the resolution of the issued challenges.

No offence taken, liquidsky. And no I'm not a harlot of the judicial system.

I suspect in the overall scheme of how things have transpired here, you'd be the one thought of as having lost your composure here continually...and on an immense scale, Shadow. In the ongoing thread, far from defending your points with validity, you're the only one amongst everyone who was inflamed enough to have felt compelled to ask other chat members to engage in a brutal slugfest.

In my personal experiences, I cannot think of a single incident where violent fistfights resolved matters better than articulate debate. If punch-outs work for you, then I reckon you are entitled to live your life in the manner you choose. I wish you the best. As for me, it doesn't work for me...and quite frankly I'm too scared of fights (and that's just from watching it in the sidelines.)

I have no ego...bruised or inflated. In my experience, I've found it to be an utter waste of time nurturing an ego. There are better ways with which I use my time. And what I am really interested in is the subjects of discussion...such as the one you are having with Aipah now.

I continue to be perplexed at how you manage to carelessly leap from one invalid assumption to the next. Aipah may be touring and travelling for a month. He may have some costly electronic goods on hand with which to enhance his travel experiences. That does not automatically denote that he is wealthy. He could have been working his ass off for many years prior to embarking on this trip.

And as I said, the more important point is that, even were Aipah fiscally rich, it has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. That you continue to invent, promote, and  harp on the matter is puzzling and could be evidence of a deeper angst; no one else seems vigourously interested in Aipah's financial background save for you. (On a personal note I don't care. I choose my friends and make my enemies NOT on the basis of what they have in their bank accounts.). In which case, it is no longer really Aipah's issue, but yours. And I'm not certain if this thread is the appropriate venue for what you are attempting to resolve.

On being "kakampi" on a "personality" level, I take no sides here. I am looking at the topics of debate not the persons behind the topics. I do not know you or Aipah on a personal level. He is perhaps as nice a person as you are were we all not using our keyboards as flamethrowers.

In one post you stated two conflicting emotions:
"panong di iinit ulo ko!?"
"nakakatuwa talaga ito!!"
At this juncture, perhaps it is you who truly needs to relax.

"antiquities?"

telenovela "antiquities?"

Just wondering what he meant.

Agreed, Jerry and Hagobel. Well thus far, that makes a grand total of 3 people in this chatroom who are all perplexed by Shadow's posting.

Telenovela "antiquities?"

Not to mention that he was going to post more of his "antiquities" as well. Perhaps he intends to  hock the family jewels here.

"ANTIQUITIES?!"
go get a dictionary

I don't think we should keep the peace.
That would be a massive disappointment to the legions of AirBiscuit fans who eagerly await his daily word-weaving and lush writings. AirBiscuit's commentaries are by no means arbitrary. What they are is pure art.

Please take note that AirBiscuit will ALWAYS have the unique discriminating tastes of his intelligent fans in mind when he writes. Their appreciation for humour that is as much sharp, crisp, lucid wit as it is warm and affectionate banter. Their joy in reading a well-conceptualised play-of-words and turn-of-phrase, the rapier-thrust of wit that is as much insightful as it is funny, the confoundingly precise adjective married to the appropriate noun. All that have been the elements of AirBiscuit's literary brew.

To his legion of admirers out there, the quality of AirBiscuit's postings will always be high in obvious respect to his readers' intellects. And rest assured that AirBiscuit will not disappoint. Guns ablazing. Target Locked.

Thank you for finally pointing that obvious fact out, Mitch. That what I post is NOT about unleashing personal attacks but rather, all about dishing out fun entertainment...and perhaps telling a few awkward insights about our frailties as human beings along the way.

That said, as it seems obvious that you have noticed as well, AirBiscuit's remarks are made always with tongue firmly placed in cheek.

Lastly, sincere thanks as well for the kind and generous compliments. Though I don't believe in external validation, in principle, it is always pleasant to receive especially when one does not have to beg for it.

Well I reckon it would be wise to commence practice on  heavier waves and rely less on excuses that stretch from here to the base camp of Mount Everest and back around to Papua New Guinea.

This brings us to the much-awaited Aipah-Shadow "Showdown in Siargao." Aipah's been quiet but would like to inform everyone that he is silent for the simple reason that he is training everyday for the competition. He intends to make good on his challenge. And (I claim no expertise here) I assume one wins surf competitions by relentlessly practicing on waves, and not exercising one's fingers on a keyboard typing narratives that do less in broadening the mind and do more in leadening the eyelids. Perhaps someone mistook the surf challenge for "fingerboard surfing."

I need a manicure.

and you love it.

A well-constructed response Helmut! I liked the lacerating sarcasm. I like how you lifted certain portions of my narrative, and jettisoned it back with even fuller force. Good show and a damn fine rebuttal. And that will always punish, injure, and  hurt me exponentially more than any physical threat. Airbiscuit will ALWAYS concede to a point well made, particularly when executed with that flourish and style.

The warnings of potential bodily harm, however, are not necessary (and as I said, it always leaves a rancid taste in people's mouths). In any event, I don't really react to threats anymore. Largely because I live daily life constantly terrified of death and destruction: be it the pollution, the punishing punch, the plunging peso, paying far too much attention at a plump-breasted woman's plunging neckline whilst crossing a busy highway, and my penchant for Big Mac's (am certain that does more harm to my internal organs than any pugilist can do). Not to mention that the confoundingly precise shortboard nose that has been pummelled in my face numerous times has been my own. (I've run out of "P" words at this point, Helmut, so I'll have it end it here. I shall try to make a more commendable attempt next time.)

And blimey, Hansel really did get a 2-pager from Shadow. I confess the attention you got from Shadow has bruised me more than any of his previous postings.

He did give me that biblical inference (Juan La Batista at that!) though, Hansel. And that must count for something!

By the wet balls of John the Baptist, Hansel did beat me and really did get a 2-pager from Shadow. For fecks sake.

Goodness gracious. I just read the tete-a-tete between marklucas and q2002 at the "Whereabouts are these precious jules" thread. And it appears that their discussion there could seriously give our flirtations here in the "Daet2" thread a run for its centavo.

ROLL CALL: Hansel, Hagobel, Shadow, Helmut Long, Mitch, Kurdec, Jim, Jerry.  Conjure up another controversial topic. Write a novel on here. Do something. Our ratings could plunge.

Rather than calling people "stupid addicts" and going back on one's word, let us look at the chronology of events here. Because it seems as if Shadow is going back on his word with regard to the Siargao Surf Challenge Aipah issued.

So here are the facts:

from AIPAH:
Re: daet2
« Reply #29 on: June 4th, 2004, 4:18am »    
shadow!why dont we see each other at cloud 9 next international surfing event,lets charge the meanest and biggest set of the day!
we've got a lot of spell to get amp..........
No more waves waiting in Daet where the swell that you anticipate roll only in your mind...
lets go to reality bro!!!
this time.place your bet!!!!!!!!

from HAGOBEL:
 Re: daet2
« Reply #38 on: June 4th, 2004, 6:47pm »  

  WHAT:  1st Siargao Newbie "Balls" Surfing Challenge

  WHERE: Cloud 9 Siargao Island

  WHEN:  Day Before Siargao International Surfing Cup

  WHO:   Aipah and Shadow and anyone who wants to      
          be part of this prestigious hair raising  
          skin donations event.

  PRIZES: "Sana may mag sponsor"

Sana wala pong mapikon.....
Saya dito sana wag kayong tumigil,para kaming may maliit
na telenobelang inaabangan araw araw.

from KATHY:
Re: daet2
« Reply #39 on: June 4th, 2004, 8:51pm »    
It may not be much but I'll contribute a jar of homemade chocolate chip oatmeal cookies (with nuts!) for the winner...  

from AL:
Re: daet2
« Reply #40 on: June 4th, 2004, 11:57pm »    
yeah, ill pitch in free dinner anywher in manila for the winner!

from SHADOW:
Re: daet2
« Reply #43 on: June 6th, 2004, 1:14pm »
sige game ako sa sinasabi nyong comp... bwehehe.. me against mr. pro...

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THOSE ARE THE HARD FACTS. PURE AND SIMPLE.

See you all there.